I Don't Know What You're Saying, Luke.

Lukewarm response to the idea that liberals can overcome entrenched forces of capital. "I don't think there's, you know, a clear, obvious answer here," he says. Lukewarm: I really do read very closely and listen very closely to what an Amy Klobuchar says or Pete Buttigieg saysor Justin Trudeau says. He thinks politics becomes is a competition for who can tell the most compelling story.