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271: Michael Shellenberger's Punk Rock Moment

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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You Talk About Your Narcissism

"I started changing my mind about these things in my mid to late 30s," he says. "It just became obvious to me once you spent any time looking at it that renewables had huge environmental impacts" He was against the Iraq war, but definitely soft on police officers and prisons.

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