The Chinese Are Stealing Technology, but You Can't Steal Your Way Into First Place

The Chinese are stealing not just intellectual property, but negotiating positions. They want to create these hooks and a dependency on China so that moving forward 10, 15, 20 years, they're the shot caller. The theory kind of minimizes the overall scale of the damage because ultimately, yeah, the Chinese might get closer to us, but they're never going to take over.