i'm convinced that startups won't make a serious dent until they're playing the real game and they're in the guts of health care yeah. i have some like controversial takes on how companies should to approach insurance and go to market that are not is really not the status quo right now but sort of moving away from that. How do we reorient the health care system around the end customer instead of orienting it around the provider and the payer? I think there's lots of opportunities both for companies delivering services but also for utilities that can be cross cutting to solve that problem.

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