The first step is always like pie in the sky, what are all the things i might like to do? But before you commit to something, even though you are not fully committing to it, right, you could say, h i'm an experiment with this for a month. And after a month, i can say, so i want to double down all that experiment or stop. Isina Yergin: I have friends who made their lives by travelling around and eating crappy food but then when they got back on stage everyone wants to eat beer and piza. She says she's never been able to give up her love of music because "it just makes me feel good"

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