Application Research

So when we first met, it was in Toronto. And you said that you have an amazing job because it combines real research with sort of serving real customers. So how do you balance this? And is there a positive feedback loop that could be built here? Or is it more like a trade off and you need to just find a decent spread of time? That's a very good question. I get through a bit of two things that I like. In my life, when I do too much engineering or too much product, at some point, I'm like, I wouldn't say bored, but I get exhausted by low level questions. But then if I only do high level scientific breakthrough

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