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China's ecological miracle w/ Kyle Ferrana

The East is a Podcast

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"I make an effort to like find all this stuff, you know, in the Western press," he says. "No one who works for an actual media institution is doing it because that's not what their editors and the owners and shareholders want to see" He adds: "If I use Chinese sources, they'll say, oh, we're just, this is propaganda ... No one's going to believe this."

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