When i have an ideal self and i literally make progress, this is not a positive reinforcer. So what do i need to do? I need to find some way to get rid of this thing. We start by understanding that that ideal self is built up from a series of fantasies. As long as that exists, it's going to be hard to sort of fix that shame gap. And if i can start over here and i move this far, then this is progress. This is like hay, i accomplish something to day, and to morrow i can do this, and tomorrow i can done this, andto morrow i could do this.