Maggie Kego: I think the COVID-19 pandemic was, I don't know, call it a practice pandemic. How do we prevent people from being in echo chambers and being in an extremist situation and being violent? Peter O'Neill: We're not really doing sufficient work to be able to provide an early warning system. The other side is still is extremism in the world. And how do we uplift humanity all at once? So, it's isolationism and extremism that is sort of the challenge for me to think about.

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