What's Your Definition of a Real Leader?

Michael Welch: What is your definition of a real leader? Kevin Nower: Is that's he go out there, reframe failure and always folks, keep it real. And how do you create that culture where that's, that really is the case because it goes against so much of our traditional, you know, house society, things and things)? Michael Welch: I think just as much as we've talked about this, this whole idea of regeneration to me brings away that these are learnings along the way.