iwa, i was toingta shawn nichols not too long ago about reductionism. We feel almost guilty for positing something that couldn't be explainable by reduced you know, by the reductive mechanisms. It seems like a real misguided approach to think that everything could be like physics,. Where where we reduce things. Culturally that came to be, I mean, by science. And i think even as like a behavior scientist like i think it's led us astray.

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