I wanted to draw people's attention to this paper that you had the case for advanced care planning in the NICU. And I'd especially like to draw people to the figure one one, which is a great it's called the pediatric serious illness conversation guide. You can literally say these things and conduct a very effective family meeting. We would love to hear from you. Send us questions, comments or suggestions to our email address, NICU podcast at gmail.com.

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