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Developing leadership is a podcast for engineering leaders. In this episode, we welcome mary williams, scaling cto and one of the most inspiring engineering leaders in the world right now. We also talk about how to manage your self-worth when it comes to managing other people's lives too. As always, there are accompanying show notes with a deep dive into the main topics, mental models and key moments from this episode.

Meri Williams, one of the most inspiring engineering leaders in the world, joins us for a discussion on managers vs. leaders, coaching vs. mentoring, how leaders can advise team members from different backgrounds, and the power of sponsorship.

Deep dive into the topics discussed in this episode at go.developingleadership.co/ep24

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Developing Leadership is a podcast presented by Athenian. We are introducing the world of engineering to metrics and data that improve processes and help teams. If you want to learn more about data-enabled engineering, go to athenian.com