The atman is the sameness everywhere. The same divinity shining through everywhere. We're all the same human beings. It's an important thing to recognize. Everybody's a living being. All of it is the same matter, e now, earth, sky, fire, water, wind,. Everything here in the universe is like that. In india, it's a common phrase. N villages, you will hear sab maa. Go further, all of this is nothing but god. God means hear isar and saguna brahman appears in all creation. What is the material of this creation? What is the reality here?