The last book looked at minatel, this network in france that was kind of an alternative state approach to net working. So why did you decide to turn your attention to this more desentialized, on line set of communities for this book? Both projects are about expanding our sense of what's possible and what kinds of internets we might exist in now, and what might be possible for the future. And it turns out there s actually a lot of nuance and complexity to that story that's missing also.

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