A lot of grazing happens on public land, but there's different ways that cattle can be grazed. And what we're trying to do is get morregenerative grazing, so where the cattle are rotated more. It's still better than cropping, chemical mono cropping, but it's not ideal. What we want are these animals to be moving frequently, to give the land a rest,. So that it's getting the right level of impact.

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