In general, do you think that applications will be worth a lot more than the layers at theyr on or vice versa? I think it's becoming even more blured now, so because you've actually seeing applications that have their own caints. So we are sein a much more blurred a landscape than we probably then were theorizing about back when we sort of launched erfi. Back in two thousand 17, we've always had a view that there would be a number of lay one solutions that would come out of this space,. And i think we've still got that view.

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