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Are We Imagining A Better Future Into Existence? with adrienne maree brown

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

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The Difference Between Pleasure and Pain

"I'm a dissociator so when you talk about the balance in the basement I'm like I love that like and I'm so grateful for the gift of dissociation but I also am grateful that I know the distinction between dissociation which I used to think was pleasure," she says. "Sometimes I can't get all that and I just need to numb myself and I just needs to cope and I justneed to get through." The book is published by Simon & Schuster at £16.99.

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