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A Conversation with David Valerio

Clerestory (Bryan Kam)

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Are You Trying to Avoid Suffering?

After Constantine, the Romans kind of stop killing Christians as much. And so then you kind of can't get martyred, so you kind of have to martyr yourself. So people just like, go and stand on pillars or lock themselves into cloisters Or something. But I think there's like a distinction in emphasis, which is like, because the earlier like, terra vada, ideal is called our haunt or our haunt.

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