The main point is that there's somebody else, there are other from everybody else. And we don't like kind of pointedly, I think don't hear the, like they are the only perspective that we never inhabit for ourselves. We don't know a lot about them except that they have this thumping music going all the time. So people are not like thrilled about them, but some people are way more racist about it than others. The guy who's the most racist about it starts his chapter off with, you know, I'm not racist, but oh no.

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