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#1144 Eric Spofford | Shocking Story Of Former Drug Addict Turned CEO

The Pomp Podcast

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I Don't Drink, You're Not Gonna Drink, Right?

"If you surround people with life, they end up actually thriving," she says. "It's so fascinating because it also parlays perfectly into James Clear's entire idea of like, if you change your identity, it changes your habits."

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