The Importance of Creativity in Life

Ferriss: I started to maybe doubt him a little bit in this process because when he mentioned Tim Ferriss here, there was definitely an emphasis on travel as the end game. And it seems like that was he never said that that was the end game and that that's the thing. So then it makes me kind of put my guard up a little bit more around the ideas that this person is sharing with me. It's because I know we're coming from very different places on a foundational level.