I've always had this thing inside me ever since, you know, mid teens that like I wanted to first of all perform an entertain. Then when an opportunity came up to start messing around with people who were musals, I was like, yeah, go for it. Never been trained, never any lessons in guitar, never been, any vocal lessons, and still most of the time, I can't actually tell you what, I have a player. The theory behind is, is not there, it's all about me, so, say passion takes you a long way, don't I?