A lot of people conflate the volatility and the addiction to volatility with the actual result that happened. I think that's, that's where the market sort of tricks the participants. Most guys want to come into the markets and they want o be right,. But if you want to make money, making money is boring. Sometimes it's tedious. It requires patience and discipline. It's not fun. The other thing that i'll sayis, is that people often conflate time frames. And i think maybe that is kind of similar to what sue was saying. You start with as a trade, and then suddenly you become a bag holder, right? There's nothing more dangerous than having that

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