John McWhorter: I cannot get John to discuss the transgender debate in our conversation. He says it's a complete losing bet and so he won't talk about it. Unrace: My wife, Luan Lowery, doesn't really disagree with me about a lot of this stuff. It's just as she thinks it's the wrong target. She'll say something like the real structural issues here have to do with economics. That's the last chapter of the memoir.

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