How Scala Can Be a Mainstream Language

I think to be honest, I went too long with the C++ and Java stream. That implementation phase was like a 10 plus year long in Python. So it just wasn't an option for me to put in the time to look at other things deeply apart from obviously aspect J. Once I had moved on from that, I did start looking around and that's what brought me to Scala. And one of the things maybe that part of the journey that would be interesting to hear about is you and I worked together for the Scala days 2015, did you say it was? 2013. Yeah.