i thought a good place to start with cadence, where it sits at this interesting intersection of soft ware and hardware. You think about your phone, let's thes use an iphone, then this device, of course, has a lot of chips inside of it. A lot of em are now designed by apple itself, an om that became a chip maker. That's kind of the starting point of what e d sopoware is as is highly, highly technical,. kind of this productivity platform in design, platform for designing a chip. Andt britons point a partner with the chip designer, which would be a engineer at some one like apple, or systems company

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