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Magic Lessons Ep. 208: “Leap Into the Fire” featuring Martha Beck

Magic Lessons with Elizabeth Gilbert

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Is There a Way to Avoid Pain?

The writer says avoidance of pain creates its own kind of pain, which is artistic suffocation. The worst time of our life usually involves fetal position on a bathroom floor. Nothing is better material for your art than what happens when you jump into the flames and get burned? It's all copy. Its the great nora fron you say so or another way.

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