Is It Self Preservation or Other Motives?

The question is whether that's motivated by this fundamental anxiety for preservation, right? If it's all reducible to that, or if there's something that goes beyond that. In other words, we could imagine an alternative scenarion and ask where that leads. What if the state of nature is noble savagery and hunting and gathering? And in that case, the fundamental imperative isn't the preservation and so you don't get grounds for liberty once you've set up society. I think that's an interesting alternative to think about. It's something to keep in the back of our minds, because we're getting aground here for liberalism, for the idea of societys as we