Introduction

Don't Get Fired is a podcast about how we can bring innovation into the land of institutional investment and ideally do so without you losing your job. Our guest today to talk about how to do innovation well is Ian Patrick, chief investment officer of the newly formed Australian retirement trust. We also have Daniel Adamson chairman of capital constellation who finally found his people in the world of public finance. Ash B Monk: I'm a South African by birth as will emerge from the accent that found my people in the retirement system back in Johannesburg but it's only been too so far.