What Was the Message on the Pager?

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"He always seemed so happy just to be alive and so happy to do what he was doing," Howard says. "So when he didn't show up for work, we said, hey, you know, this is really unusual that he has not shown up for work" When they couldn't get a response from Ahmed, the team paged him or beat him to see if he would return their call. If it had been Ahmed, 'we would have expected whatever message we received to have been quite different'

In 1995, two men filmed an episode of the daytime talk show, The Jenny Jones Show. A few days later, one of the men was dead. The shooter later claimed he’d committed the murder “in a panic that he was being falsely accused or identified as a gay person.”

We speak with Cynthia Lee, Carsten Andresen, and Paul Howard about so-called “gay panic” and “trans panic” defenses, and we discuss the murders of Scott Amedure, Islan Nettles, Larry King, Ahmed Dabarran, and Matthew Shepard.

Thanks to Thomas Curry, who helped co-produce this episode.

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