Marking a Path With a Karen, Not K-C

"The cosmic joke is always part of this man," he says. "We're shadows of our past selves, but you were wearing. these earring things that made you look and elk." He ends the interview with an anecdote about his wedding to a woman who was also called K-C. 'It's always better to end with a joke'

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