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038 - OOUX at HelloFresh with Jake Zukowski

The Object-Oriented UX Podcast

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The North Star State

"I want both UX designers and product managers to be more strategic. And these discussions around not around what we're doing for customers, but like how we're cooperating together," he says. "In the North Star state, I don't care whether your title is product product manager or UX designer."

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