Recode Decode: B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty, The List App Co-Founders
Decoder with Nilay Patel
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Are You Reacting to the Creative Process?
Actress Diane Ladd says the system is based on fear and loathing. As a creator, it does free as a creator, but there's just so much fear she says. "The relationship between you ... gives you a lot more power"
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