Ramsey: I really like this breakdown because what it and it's sort of like inverse. It builds on what we talked about in the last podcast where we see the leverage in the engineers first, then in the operating class and then finally in the management class. The pace at which this is going and some of the dynamics, as you're saying, Vinny are not typical. They're unique to this moment in time. And they are in fact, the black swans perhaps.

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