In AS CBD, there's really very little ambiguity about the utility of HDL. And yet we're standing here with our hands in front of us saying, well, what can we do about it clinically as a physician? I think realistically, we need a good reproducible, easy-to-run, automatable assay that then is tested in large numbers of people and shown to predict risk better than HDL cholesterol. That will rejuvenate the field of cholesterol efflux and reverse cholesterol transport as a therapeutic target for intervention. But even if we knew mechanistically that this were sound, we're still back in the same area we are with AS CBD.

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