Honey subsidies are pretty well explained by the concentration of benefits in a small number of producers and the diffuse nature of costs. If you aggregate all those nickels that turns into $20,000 per beekeeper is that a rough measure of what size of the subsidy was? I'd have to go back and look at what we've written because it's been actually a number of years since I've looked at that but yes we'll put a link up to it and people can go find it for themselves if they're really worried about it or curious are the subsidy still in place?

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