Nervousness Versus Excitement

Alex and Jay explore how similar body sensations can be labeled as fear or excitement and how that reframes experience.

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Alex Honnold doesn’t climb to feel alive, he climbs because, in those moments, life finally feels simple.

Today, Jay sits down with world-renowned climber Alex Honnold to explore what truly lies behind fear, focus, and extraordinary achievement. Alex shares how his relationship with fear has been shaped not by a lack of it, but by years of consistent exposure, revealing that courage isn’t about being fearless, but about learning how to listen, respond, and stay present.

Jay and Alex dive into the discipline behind seemingly impossible feats: visualization, preparation, and intentional living. Alex opens up about how he mentally rehearses climbs in vivid detail, not by imagining success alone, but by walking through every sensation, risk, and possibility. This process, he explains, allows him to stay calm and grounded when it matters most. Jay draws parallels to meditation, public speaking, and everyday challenges, showing how the same principles of visualization, presence, and focus can help anyone face intimidating moments with clarity and confidence.

Beyond climbing, Alex shows his other self, a husband, father, and friend who values simplicity, purpose, and service. From building a foundation that brings solar energy to communities in need to choosing joy over ego-driven success, Alex embodies a life guided by intention rather than external validation.

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Build Calm by Facing Fear

How to Train Your Mind Before You Act

How to Stay Focused When the Stakes Are High

How to Normalize Fear Instead of Fighting It

How to Use Visualization for Peak Performance

How to Know Your Limits Without Losing Ambition

How to Build Mastery Through Consistent Practice

You don’t need to chase danger or push yourself to the edge to grow. Growth happens when you prepare with intention, focus on what’s in front of you, and stop letting imagined outcomes hold you back.

Watch Alex Honnold free-solo the 101-story Skyscraper, Taipei 101 live on Netflix on January 23rd.

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Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:27 The Deeper Reason Behind Climbing the Tallest Building

04:11 Choosing an Unconventional Path

06:58 Why Consistent Practice Changes Everything

09:28 What It Really Takes to Become Great

11:51 Lessons From Getting Lost

13:41 Why Fear Loses Its Power Over Time

17:00 Understanding Fear as a Physical Sensation

20:42 The Discipline of Staying Within Your Limits

22:41 What Extended Meditation Teaches You