Is There Potential Outside of Civilization?

People are so e conditioned anddomesticated with regard to the modern world that all their possibilities are in relation to it, right? So they don't see any possibility because they can't see outside of civilization. Whereas the optimism needs to be like, well, if you could break out of that perspective, then you could see there is potential for these things. There's potential neer have acom ou nowa sit round a camp fire and grow your and vedge. But on, we're not taught that those are a aspirationl as they'd like to say, right? Exactly. And that is going on each of these projects.