The Power of Unambiguous Pushback

When you want to share with one person, you have very sophisticated mechanisms for evaluating what another person's reaction will be. It's highly likely that where you get a strong unambiguous pushback from someone that is shaming is probably because they're someone who has a lot of shame. I was so scared when we got together because I was good friends and good friends with Stephen Mitchell and Byron Katie, who are two beautiful, lovely people that I love. They were absolutely no problem, no problem whatsoever, just went straight through on the matter.