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Out of Creative Control: Bret Speaks with Matt Orfalea on the DarkHorse Podcast

DarkHorse Podcast

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I'm a LOT Older, but I Feel Like I Could Have Done Something More

"I feel like I could have done something more. Yeah, taking a bigger stand," he says. "You just keep honing your skills and, you know, keep going after Goliath." He's confident that this is not the last dumb accusationyou will have to stare down.

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