Welli: I think that we certainly are in dark times. Prospects are not good. But i do think that it the a survival of liberalism in the short term is perhaps improbable, but certainly not impossible. Welli: We may have to go through a great deal of suffering from the effects of anti liberalism to re learn the lesson that kamu and his contemporaries learned. The importance of qualifying any political goal or cause with certain liberal restraints if we're to avoid the kind of horror none of us really want to be the victim of.