And I want to believe that people more intelligent than me, maybe like Ryan or, you know, Jimmy or Ben Askin or anybody else who are on rock fin maybe has a better understanding of how crypto works and how the ray token specifically works, and that they wouldn't be on the platform they're getting, you know, royally screwed. So I kind of put my faith in that. But I, the reason why I support the platform is one, in regards to like actual important information, they haven't censored anybody. Obviously, there's a Benjamin Owen story and that whole thing. But it's like, okay, he, they had an issue with like him being offensive, but they never censor anybody like, oh, this is corruption that I'm exposing. This is important information. And you know, that type of stuff has never been censored. Like nobody's censoring information, because they have a different perspective there, they're censoring. Basically what they thought was a little offensive. And that was the only time and then Martin, the CEO, even had took the time and had it, had it in his heart to actually do a podcast with Owen Benjamin and talk about it. And you know, which I thought like why you're just like, why do you have to do that? Like that shows that you care enough to at least explore the idea that you could be wrong in the whole sensory thing. And Benjamin Owen, am I getting his name wrong, Owen Benjamin? And he's now on rock fin too. So he eventually did end up getting going on rock fin

too. So I think it's Owen before.

Yeah. So to me, like that's one of the reasons why, you know, I still support them and I'm a fan of the platform because when she hit the fan, when all these other platforms are being attacked, like they still let us have interviews on there with the doctors and do the union and want and all this stuff. And never once have I had an issue with getting this information out there and having controversial people on my show and nobody that I would call a truth seeker who is trying to, you know, spread alternative information, they've never been censored. So I really appreciate that. And also when the Whitney web thing happened where she had somebody steal a bunch of crypto from her, they went over and beyond in regards to helping her out with that too. And she had some some issues with somebody she was working with, steal a bunch of her money, her Ray tokens and they did like a full investigation and really helped her out in any way they could. So it's yeah, I mean, to me, like you have to appreciate those platforms. And when, you know, right now it's like it's it COVID behind us, it seems pretty easy to let alternative media creators on your platform. But they were letting us they're really growing and letting us come on when all the other platforms were being censored and they knew that they could potentially be attacked and or shut down or sued or any of those things. So it's fascinating. But then you look at like that F X T or FT X story. And then you know, like the whole just crypto people rethinking like, okay, it's crypto being used as a scam is whatever, you know, it's like, I must say it made me think like, okay, is Ray token going to be like one of those things where just like, Oh, there's no value in this and all of a sudden it's just going to crash. And but I don't know, I mean, I obviously, as long as there's a video platform that uses Ray tokens, it's going to have to it's going to have some type of value. But I would prefer if it was like, okay, somebody tips me $2. years, you know, I get my $2 minus whatever the fee is for, for, you know, having the platform and doing the transaction and all that stuff. Because right now I don't know if that's, you know, what that is, because of the Ray value drops, am I getting a diminished version of those two dollars? You know, a, you know, does that make sense? Because I'm trying to make sense of something I'm not sure how it works. So it's a it is a bit confusing. But it's one of the few places you can still monetize when you look at like Ryan and Whitney and Corbett and all these people who've been kicked off PayPal, Patreon have been kicked off all these places. Like it's one of the few places where you can still, you know, give your listeners and fans of your show a method of supporting the show in one way or another.

Yeah, yeah, I think I think what Ronnie was trying to to get there was, if, for example, I give you $5, I want to think that you're getting $5, if not $4.95 and not 50 cents and someone else is taking the rest of it. I think that was the question. I mean, obviously you couldn't answer that because you know, you, you, you, like you say, it's a monthly thing and it's kind of bundled up. So it's hard to quantify how much you're getting. But for example, in Patreon, I mean, what's their fees? If I give you $5 in Patreon, what do you physically get? I'd

also have to look at this.