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Tom Tugendhat on Ukraine, NATO, and Strengthening the Alliance of Free States

Conversations with Bill Kristol

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Isn't China a Nation State?

I wouldn't undermine or belittle what nato is doing either. I meant, as i say, it's the change from multilateralism of the 19 fifties and sixties to er a return to a form of nationalism. That means that international organizations are more enablers than actors. And they were created not to replace the nation state. They were created to enable countries that had very often only recently rediscovered their liberty. Find ways in which nation states can work together will be the real challenge of the next 20 thirt years of our diplomacy.

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