If we were to stop completely, oil will be more or less around the rate that we need. But with half a steel coal and you have gas, this is not enough. Even if maybe in terms of energy, you are reducing your energy consumption because you are using something which is worse,. Probably in terms of CO2, you could have a worse situation. "I did just wanted the coal to pass in order to burn it to aggravate the situation," he says.

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