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251: Matt Hagan—You Wear 40 Pounds of Gear Because, You Know, You're on Fire Quite a Bit

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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"This is an industry that needs more involvement, because there's a lot of fakes out there," he says. "It really is what you're getting, probably a bit more than what we say in there ... just to make sure that you get enough" He adds: "To be able to help someone is pretty cool."

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