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#157 Listener phone-in (part 2)

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The Importance of Normalizing Shit

Craig: "What is adding to the sum total of human existence is fucking misery, right? But nobody seems to get punished for it" He says we're saddling with solutions that we're not quite happy with but can't figure out how to get mandate or people on board to do it the right way. We don't believe each other this much and this openly and this often, ever," he adds. 'It's sort of depressing to settle for mediocre'

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