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Curse of Politics
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The NDP's Debate on the Pension Plan
"I think that's, that is a strategic, an interesting strategic challenge if you're the NDP," he said. "How do I leverage what I've gained, but translate it into a new issue?" He added: "The fact that she's not disavowing the pension plan that she just says, listen, I don't want to talk about it now."
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