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Episode 239 - Ben Gibbard

Sodajerker On Songwriting

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Working With John Congleton - It's the First Time in a Very Long Time

"It works really well from that sort of hypnotic riff at the beginning through to where the whole thing kicks in. Yeah, that contrast is fantastic," he says. "I felt with working with John Congleton that it was the first time that we were in the studio with somebody who was truly from our world"

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