Speaker 2
Come on. Well, so on TikTok, it's like a really big thing. There's some accounts that are just... All they do is just post... Show clips, right? Yeah, they just show clips. And so people will
Speaker 1
watch like either full shows or full movies entirely via like 10-minute clips on
Speaker 2
What's, can you give me an example of something that you've done not to incriminate yourself? Okay. I've never like watched, sat down and watched like a 30 minute show on TikTok entirely through like clips, but like Sex and the City, like they'll post a lot of like scenes
Speaker 1
from Sex and the City.
Speaker 2
But then they take them out of context and they're like, this is an unacceptable, like this is a trespass by Charlotte. Miranda was a problem.
Speaker 1
Honestly, true.
Speaker 2
I'm just wondering if this is the reason that Netflix is doing this is in order to, like,
Speaker 1
to capture this
Speaker 2
TikTok generation.
Speaker 1
In a way, then, you could see it as the continuation of the password sharing lockdown, where they're like, we to get the younger cohort a paying for the service and then be using it using
Speaker 2
it instead they're going to share stuff they have to share it through our thing so that somehow it counts as engagement yes for the shareholders and
Speaker 1
it's also just like an interesting because i feel like i don't know if this was
Speaker 2
netflix in particular but i know a few streaming services for a while it's like you couldn't even like screenshot scene. It would just go black. And so I feel like this is interesting. I learned that during
Speaker 1
the sex boat movie a few years ago.
Speaker 2
I think it's DMR or something. I can't remember what the actual, but it's basically for a while, you could screenshot Max or HBO Go or whatever it was. You could be like, funny Game of Thrones image. That was me. It's me when I haven't had my coffee in the morning you know like head on a pike um but you basically like for me it would it required a degree of technical savvy that i didn't have if i wanted to make my own stuff like yeah and it always seems so like counterintuitive like why would you like stop people from sharing like screenshots of like scenes that they found funny in the hopes it'll go like viral on social media. I have an example of why you might not want that. Why? So one of the more popular GIFs in my personal network right now is the scene from Manchester by the Sea where Casey Affleck pulls the cop's gun out of its holster and puts it to his head.
Speaker 1
I've used it in a group chat with you. But
Speaker 2
mostly about Jalen Hurts throwing interceptions. And I could imagine. Kenny Lonergan is okay with that. I would imagine Kenneth Lonergan is not okay with that. I can imagine that given what I know about him, that he's probably like, that's not the context I wanted that heartbreaking image of grief to be used. Listen,
Speaker 1
if Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright Kenneth Lonergan had spent an hour with me in London's premier Philadelphia sports bar watching Baker Mayfield nuclear bomb my team. Getting COVID-20. COVID-30. He would have given me special dispensation to use that gift. Do
Speaker 2
you want to tell me a little bit about our beloved Comcast Corporation, perhaps chopping it up? Well, there's
Speaker 1
not much to say because, what did you say? We weren't earlier a data-driven podcast. We are also not a financial-driven podcast and understand little of this. However, there was an interesting report today that on an earnings call earlier this morning, Comcast said that it would consider spinning off its cable networks and also seek a partner for its streaming services. And again, they were just CEOs don't speak idly. This wasn't just like, you know, just daydreaming on the phone at two in the morning. This was a intention behind this, basically admitting that because of continuing headwinds and like massive losses, including, as you pointed out, a loss on the Olympics, which, you know, this is also kind of a stark reminder of what the business is, which is by all accounts, including the accounts of this data driven podcast, the Olympics on the NBC suite of networks this summer was a success. People loved it. And there was a great Olympics and people were watching it and they were like, they finally figured out how to show us this stuff. And they lost half a billion dollars. Yeah. So there is an enormous, perhaps ever widening divide. Teacup's good though. Exactly. So it's all a wash, but like a divide between like, this is a success in all ways except financial. So what was interesting to me about this, there's a, there's a version of the story, is like, duh, this is obvious. People for years, even before it seemed like an imperative that there would have to be some contraction or a combination in the streaming business, people were like, well, Peacock really can't exist on its own. It's going to have to find a partner or it's going to get, maybe they're going to buy Paramount or merge with Paramount or maybe Max needs to whatever. That's been out there as a possibility, and I'm sure tires have been kicked. The idea that they would somehow do what Fox did when it sold most of its assets to Disney. To Disney, but kept the news and kept the network. Yes. That seems really bizarre. So in this version that was floated, the Comcast would keep NBC, the broadcast network, with its news division and everything. It would keep Peacock, the streaming service.
Speaker 2
But get rid of CNBC and MSNBC. And
Speaker 1
Bravo and SyFy and USA and all of the networks that provide content for Peacock, which is bizarre, which obviously wouldn't be a step alone in a vacuum. And as you said, like CNBC and MSNBC are NBC news, right? Like it's all one thing.
Speaker 2
They're arms of it. Yeah. But
Speaker 1
I mean, you, yeah, but yeah, but the
Speaker 2
office, I think they have different editorial missions,
Speaker 1
right? I would love to hear you take five minutes to talk about MSNBC's editorial mission, or we could just go live to our parents in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1
my engagement with MSNBC. He can't keep getting away with this. Yeah. Well, if you've seen what this Trump has done now. My parents are so blue-pilled. Like, I deterrent, I call. Yeah. I'm like, hello, parents. You can hear Rachel Maddow,
Speaker 2
like, reading an affidavit at top volume.
Speaker 1
No, it's Lawrence. They love Lawrence. Yeah. The calming voice America needs.
Speaker 2
Do you know what's really funny is like... It's so loud. How they, the way MSNBC hands off the ball to the next host. Yeah. Like there's the overlap moment where like Maddow and O'Donnell are on the screen together and they're just like, oh, Lawrence, it's good to see you. You are the watcher on the wall now. We
Speaker 1
should, we could, you have the erasure of our old buddy Alex Wagner. We should.
Speaker 2
Well, she's moved on to vigor and bad things. She's involved in the handoffs as well.
Speaker 1
Anyway. By the way, just so you know, just like words from the trenches of electoral battleground Pennsylvania, my dad thinks that if this stuff about him being a fascist and admiring Hitler gets out, it's a game changer. Yeah. He's convinced. Enough people don't know about it. He voted, right? So we're, that's
Speaker 1
would vote, but he doesn't want to miss a special
Speaker 2
chris 11 p.m eastern time the other night and was just like these damn yankees and i was like did you vote i don't care that you've all of a sudden became a baseball fan like it's just like did you put in your ballot it
Speaker 1
it is funny because their understanding the media is such as older people. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. We are increasingly older people ourselves. But my mother was genuinely shocked to learn that we do not have the 24-7 diet of political commercials here in totally irrelevant California.
Speaker 2
We do when we're watching, like, I think sports. Like when I watched a Texas basketball
Speaker 1
game. Yeah, I learned. Did she really want wow I didn't know that about her okay wait so anyway so I just thought this was an interesting sign of I don't know like the well
Speaker 2
as we humorously talk about the presidency yes the battle for the presidency and we'll I guess chat a little bit more about TV presidents but I would expect some some of this stuff to happen next year once we know who's in the house. Oh, like regulatory stuff. There's regulatory stuff. I think that the fact that this story is coming out, Paramount obviously is under new ownership and has long had these kind of like ghost ship cable networks that they... That
Speaker 1
they totally gutted and abandoned. MTV, Comedy Central. Yeah, I mean, MTV is essentially
Speaker 2
prank shows all day long now.
Speaker 1
The same prank show,